Originally posted by Daf Fernandez

"I like the spin off of "I think therefore I am." theory. Most religions claim that God created the universe. Ok let's start there (no pun intended). I think there fore I am. I am therefore I was created. I was created by something, someone or somehow. therefore "something, someone or somehow"= God.

For me it is very hard to turn to organized religion for answers. Think about it, most religions are run like banks. Most churches that I have attended talk about Jesus and that the goal in life is to try to become more like him. Yet at the top of these religions are people who act more like my local banker than the really cool guy I read about in the bible. These same people are telling me what to believe. I guess anything can happen in 2000 years.

I don't care God is conscious and having his own will. Jesus in my opinion really had the right idea. So I try to love like Jesus loved. On Judgement day, if God asks me why I didn't go to church, or follow his religion, I can say with confidence "I lived my life good. Your messengers were sinners. I made my choices instead of trying to figure out which sinner to listen too." If there is no God and no Judgement day, then all I have is my mortal life and I want to be proud of it.

Let's assume for a moment there is a conscious God. I don't have the audacity to expect that my human mind can truly know the personality characteristics of God. So many people say "there is only one God." But yet they don't agree on who or what that God is. I blame human fallibility for the inconsistency. God didn't appear to all the world and say "Here I am, know me." He seems to have appeared in private to one person or a few people. It seems to me that everything is subject to interpretation of that one person. If you have ever seen a long court trial you would know that there is no absolute fact derived from one person's point of view.

I don't care if it's God or not. If it turned out to be a man behind the curtain, pulling levers and turning knobs, I'm ok with that. I have personally witnessed miracles. Something is out there. You can call it magic, you can call it God, you can call it a psychotic episode. I don't care what you call it. It's good and I love it. If everyone pointed at it and called it a name. I would use that name. Oh wait we do. We call it God."

Originally Posted by Stephen Tibbles

"This depends on your definition of god. If you are talking of an all powerful all perfect being, then the existence is unlikely. If you are saying something above human, then this I see as possible. If we are talking something that exists outside of the confines of time and existence, then I am not sure. All theories of creation are flawed, the human mind can not understand something before the beginning. Our brains think in a linear way, from start to finish, nothing before nothing after. This doesn't make sense though because things also can not just one day exist, so reality as a whole is not rational or logical."